a channeling
I was asked the logicality of that statement, based on evaluating whether the following video was logically sound:
Feel free to watch it if you'd like, but be warned it is 33 minutes long. Suffice it to say the video consists of a Yahwist using the Socratic Method on unwitting pedestrians. (Sure, a bit ironic. :p)
Here follows the response:
It's a very complex thing to resolve mentally, so seeing as how most are too busy with their daily chores and other rituals to ever consider and evaluate the complex things that are societies, religions, and morals, it is of little surprise for there to be so much confusion and ignorance on the matter.
First off, with assuming a Christian perspective--we must remember that God didn't create us to be good, but rather to choose whether we desire to be good. That is the most key point I don't think I've ever seen anyone understand, when they feel they should instill their own personal brand of morals into someone else. America is, idyllically, supposed to preserve that freedom of choice which God is supposed to have allowed us. So to make something like abortion illegal--as in to preclude having the choice from possibility--is to say that we have more authority than God, who gave us free will and the right to use it. Is that itself on a sound basis?
If you do prescribe to one Ultimate Divinity, it would have to have a nature of singularity--not one of duality, which is in the realm around us we perceive: good/bad, male/female, hot/cold, light/dark, creation/destruction, active/passive, positive/negative, up/down, etc, etc, et al. That is a complex way of saying that the Divinity would have to be "beyond good and evil". You seemingly say it is the case, for if God were indeed "good and only good"--and is omnipotent with a divine will--then he would enact this will and we would see it manifest around us as all for good and nothing for bad, because he would have no other conviction than to create good and dissolve evil instantaneously. Furthermore he couldn't exist without his 'bad' duality counterpart. . . which, as Satan, he could indeed not have created for he would not have existed without Satan already existing. Lastly, he would not be "omnipotent" if he were to exist in duality, because the "bad side" would have as much power as does he. Therefore it follows that an Ultimate Divinity wouldn't be "good" or "bad", because that just doesn't make any sense. . . at least not in coordination with many of the assumptions of the Christian faith.
As an aside, why do we describe God as a "he" instead of an "it"? Or if it's a he, where is his "she"? This is just a further example that we (including those who held the pen) have no real clue what we are saying or attempting to describe.
Now, as to whether any of the stuff is morally bad or not. Even if given that my entire last two paragraphs weren't true, if you believe there to be a Divine Will, you cannot deny by looking around you that there are bad things happening all the time. Very bad things. So it is impossible to escape the fact that evil is part of God's Divine Will. So Hitler. . . as bad as he may seem to us. . . can be a tool of God to be used for something else. Maybe a greater awakening in the collective consciousness of what things we don't desire to be? By the same token, it is possible that God allows abortion to occur for some greater purpose. It obviously happens, so it MUST be a part of his divine will, correct?
It is also possible that "we know not that which we do" and, in fact, are in no position to judge whether something is moral or not. . . even if we may think in every manner of our existence that we do. For example, if reincarnation is true, then neither killing babies nor Jews is morally wrong (even if it ultimately brings karma upon the perpetrator) if the souls merely recycle to have a new stab at living. This is just one possibility; there are likely others which give rise to a lessened "bad moral" connotation to things which any form of divinity obviously allows to occur. But, indeed, we do not know all things and it is not our place to judge.
So you cannot make judgements about morality unless you know all things, hold all the cards. The bible may claim to come from a source which has all that stuff figured out, but when it also claims that "someone who works on the Sabbath should be put to death" (among countless other things which were subjectively considered 'wrong' by the society which created it), I find it hard to take it seriously. An even deeper contradiction in that law is that it goes against the whole "thou shalt not kill" thing. So it should instead read "thou shalt not kill unless I say"? Morality is entirely depending on Yahweh's whim at the moment? Also, that goes against the concept elsewhere mentioned that "vengeance is mine", that we are supposed to leave justice and judgement up to the universe.
If we were created into duality, then it's erroneous to assume and to be told we are 'not worthy' because we cannot avoid doing 'bad' things. Duality is our nature. Duality is such that not only are we inclined by nature to do things that affect us and those around us and the planet in negative ways, but it is also such that the things which are done in completely good will and pure heart can also ultimately spawn things which are bad in nature. That's just duality, and we cannot be held accountable for things which we cannot foresee. Us doing the bad things is part of divine will, otherwise we wouldn't do them. We were created into duality for a reason, and this reason is much greater than just to feel dirty for being created as we were created and grovel in shame upon the ground.
There is much more that can be said on the fallacies of religions, but that isn't ultimately what this conversation was to be about, so I will reserve it for some other time. Suffice it to say that if Yahweh has no other way to get us to be "good" than to coerce us by bribing us with eternal reward or threatening us with eternal punishment, he's got some major screws lose. Why on earth would he try to draw his beloved creation toward him by appealing to fear and greed. . . two of our worse aspects of nature? Surely he's got some better plan than that, in all of his omniscience.
In conclusion, you can say that abortion is the moral equivalent of the Holocaust, alright. But where exactly does that get you? Until we have more knowledge or greater insight, we cannot rightly say. Now personally I wouldn't kill a fetus, a child, or a grown person. But as to whether it is ultimately right or wrong to do so, I cannot say with 100%.
By the way, whether you believe me or not... this was all channeled, directly from Divinity to you and for you--current, untainted by passing millenia, and having no middle-man priest with political or societal agendas involved. Indeed, we can only afford glimpses of that which we call "divine", and all glimpses must be considered in order to attain a more holistic picture of it. This channeling was done via the gift of logic and connection to Source I have been so graciously granted at this point in time, for the time is now for us to realize the amount to which we have been deceived by false prophets and to recall our true natures--and this is indeed why you came to me with this question, whether you realize it or not. Nothing is accident!
LET GO OF GREED. LET GO OF FEAR. LET GO OF PRIDE. LET GO OF SHAME.
EMBRACE LOVE AND ONENESS.
Cheers! ♥
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